Talk:disposable razor

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disposable razor

Sum of parts. Pious Eterino (talk) 21:34, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

But in form, it is a safety razor with a razor blade that are in their entirety disposable, so it is neither a razor nor a blade. I don’t see disposable straight razors (shavettes), only disposable blade straight razors. So not SOP. Fay Freak (talk) 22:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

@Fay Frek Your analysis it is neither a razor nor a blade seems misinformed to me. It undeniably is a razor (Any tool or instrument designed for shaving.) and yes, it is not a blade (but it contains one), but that is neither here nor there. Pious Eterino (talk) 07:59, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Is it though, and is this decisive? “Any tool or instrument designed for shaving” is inexact and technically applies to blades, but a blade is undeniably not a razor, on the other hand the handle itself is not designed for shaving but only in conjunction with a blade, so why would it suddenly be a razor when these two parts are stuck together? You see, it is just the “function of a razor”, the function of being a tool to facilitate shaving, so it is beside the point to merely take together the circumstances that it “is a razor” and also “disposable”, it does not pay attention to whether there is some restriction in construction or shape endowing the whole term idiomaticity. A fried egg is also undeniably a fried egg, and it is easy to formulate something that looks like an argument for SOPness and convince oneself while not considering this factor. If you can define it as SOP, it does not imply it is SOP.

If I were to define it “as a handle in the form of a safety razor to which a standard razor blade is fixed during cheap production pursuant to planned obsolescence” you would be less suspicious of the term being SOP. Why is not razor blade itself SOP? Apart from WT:COALMINE, I don’t even understand its second definition on first glance (a collection of razor blades available to be stuck onto plastic razor handles?), and the first definition is just that it is a blade “with a sharp edge” (as any blade) that fits “into a razor” in the second sense which is ill-defined according to my exposition; a weight plate is also not put “onto a barbell” but unto a weight bar, combined they become a barbell or dumbbell (the page is better because I defined it, as also needed for translations, which are more obvious for disposable razor however). Fay Freak (talk) 23:05, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

• Delete as SoP. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Delete. Razor sense 2 is meant in usual use, but if a disposable "keen-edged knife of peculiar shape" (gotta love those Webster defs!) came along, it would be called this too. Clear SOP. This, that and the other (talk) 07:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

• Keep. A "normal" razor is obviously disposable too. Why would a disposable razor be called "disposable" anyway? P. Sovjunk (talk) 20:27, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

  It's self-evident that sense 1 of disposable applies to all razors. Nobody would say disposable razor with sense 1 of disposable as their intended meaning. In the phrase disposable razor, sense 2 of disposable is obviously meant. The phrase is (still) SOP. This, that and the other (talk) 08:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

• Kept for no consensus. Fond of sanddunes (talk) 07:58, 31 December 2023 (UTC)