Talk:winesop

RFV discussion: March 2012

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winesop

Any takers? Seems to be a Scrabble word. Needs formatting if OK. SemperBlotto (talk) 22:11, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

 Done, but I can't guarantee that the formatting's right. --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:03, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

and I've formatted your quotations; thanks for adding them! :) - -sche (discuss) 03:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I discern two meanings from the citations in the entry and on Google Books: "something edible" (so, perhaps not rags), and "a drunkard". I'm temporarily restoring the RFV tag, until we can see if the original sense ("rags") is attestable. - -sche (discuss) 03:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I thought they were talking about a grape varietal for the most part. The first citation seems to support the definition; the other two are just uses as a derogatory term. --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

(Sorry, I didn't see that you had cleaned it up. Never mind.) --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:21, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the second sense (drunkard) does seem to be an insult. I can't figure out how to note that... I suppose just "(used as an insult)"? I don't think the original sense ("rags") is attested. - -sche (discuss) 03:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I've put "derogatory" on it. Equinox ◑ 18:54, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I've deleted the "rags" sense. I think we've found all the quotations we're going to find, and they only support the other two senses. So: two senses added and cited and kept, one sense (the original sense) RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 04:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)