Your placement of various "nyms"

Your placement of various "nyms"

I've noticed that you've been moving a lot of nyms to directly under the senses, as at maths. There have been a few users who have mentioned not liking this, including myself (see this Beer Parlour discussion from February--I think there was another discussion on it as well, but I'm not sure where). I was just wondering if it would be possible to change the templates you're using to display nyms in the same way that quotations are hidden, so that they wouldn't create so much clutter around the definition lines. Multiple users have mentioned liking the way the Simple English Wiktionary does it in some entries (see simple).

Is this something you could do easily enough? Do you have any objections to making them collapsable? I much prefer having nyms under individual senses, but the way it is now clutters up the entry too much, I think.

Andrew Sheedy (talk)18:32, 12 May 2017

They should be hidable with the right JS code, yes.

CodeCat18:43, 12 May 2017

Is that something you'd be able to make the default, since most people seem to prefer them being hidden?

Andrew Sheedy (talk)21:31, 12 May 2017

I don't think there is a consensus for hiding all synonyms behind an expandable box, so you'll have to find a consensus for this first. In the meantime, you could write code to make it collapsible just for you, and we can then use that code if/when it's decided that we want to make that available for everyone.

CodeCat21:34, 12 May 2017

I think I'll have to let others do the coding! Meanwhile, I'll start a Beer Parlour discussion to see what people think.

Andrew Sheedy (talk)22:05, 12 May 2017

It might be good to collapse by default only where they exceed a certain size. If we are collapsing a small handful of words that don't take much space, then it is counterproductive to make the user perform an extra click/tap to reveal them. But if it's a big paragraph, it can be helpful to hide them by default.

Equinox 22:11, 12 May 2017

A bit of CSS could be added so that the height never exceeds one line. The expand button could then change this so that it slows everything. However, if there are some people who'd rather not see the nyms at all by default, that could be made into a preference.

CodeCat22:17, 12 May 2017

Yeah. The CSS idea isn't bad. Preferences are nice for regular users but they don't really solve UI problems because some users won't find them, some won't want to create an account, and some use a ton of different devices and can't conveniently be logged in all the time.

Equinox 22:28, 12 May 2017