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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, welcome to Wiktionary, it's good to have another editor interested in Altaic languages (I mostly work on Mongolian entries myself but occasionally foray into Turkic stuff). Here are some tips on how to improve your editing:

  • Use {{inh}} for terms inherited from an ancestor language instead of {{der}}.
  • We don't usually treat Uyghur terms as deriving from Old Turkic, Old Uighur nor Karakhanid, Chagatai's fine though. Feel free to add them as comparanda of course.
  • I see you've had some trouble with finding correct language codes, you can find them all here at Wiktionary:List_of_languages
  • When linking languages not written in Latin script, such as Manchu, Karakhanid or Old Uighur, supply the original script if possible instead of linking the romanization. If you don't have the original script, you can just leave it empty and put the transliteration in tr=.
    • Here's an example: {{cog|mnc||t=ninety|tr=uyunju}} to produce Manchu [script needed] (uyunju, ninety).
  • For Karakhanid, you can find original spellings in Arabic script in B. Atalay, Divanü Lugat-it-türk Tercumesi, 3 volumes and index, Ankara, 1940, (available at turuz.com) and for Old Turkic there's bitig.org. Using Clauson's An Etymological Dictionary of pre-thirteenth-century Turkish you should be able to find what you need in these resources (but you probably know this already).
  • There isn't a Unicode encoding for Old Uighur in Sogdian script yet. I don't think we have an official policy on dealing with this, I guess you could attempt to write it in Mongol script or to use Latin transcription throughout (we do this with Tocharian languages and Sogdian which are in a similar situation).
  • It would be appreciated if you could mention that Altaic hypothesis is controversial when invoking it, like here.
  • Reconstructed language pages should be referenced, here's how you reference StarLing.
  • Rather than bundling together all formations derived from a specific root on a single line (as you did here with Mongolic), break them into separated lines as done in for example Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/bʰelǵʰ-


I hope I didn't scare you with all of this, you don't have to worry too much about these things as people will fix them as they come across them.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask at the Wiktionary:Information_desk or ask me directly.

People you may find helpful are User:Anylai who works on Turkish and old Turkic languages and User:Vahagn Petrosyan for whom Altaic languages are of only secondary interest but who is very knowledgeable none the less. Crom daba (talk) 01:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)Reply