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evenlong
editHello ! I see that you've removed the citation at evenlong. I'm just curious as to the reason (?) Leasnam (talk) 15:34, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Leasnam: Hello. I removed it because:
- It's Middle English (enm) and not [New] English (en), compare WT:About Middle English, WT:English entry guidelines#Etymology.
- It's "euen longes", so spelled differently. (The translation is not quoted.)
- It's poorly formatted (work, line break, ":", line break, translation and quote).
- It's wrong: page 61 (not "page 061") is in book I chap. XVII and not "book X" or "Capitulum LXI". Earlier I didn't bother to check if or where that quote is in the book, now I did: Correct is page 517f. (in book X chap. LXI).
- -Slablo (talk) 16:37, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- The original is Middle English, yes; however the translation is Modern English. It's the translation that is the citation. All the other things, such as the format and the page number can be corrected. Leasnam (talk) 05:16, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Leasnam: Well, a translation is no quote to attest anything and is more like a (bad) example sentence - unless a published and durably archived translation is given as source. Ernest Rhys gives a "translation" similar or even equal to the one in the entry, but it's more like a very bad edition which is neither Middle nor New English, but some strange mixture with New English word forms and spellings but Middle English syntax ([1]). He could be quoted and I wouldn't care, but it would be much better to give a real New English usage. google books could help to find one, and if there isn't any usage, the entry should be deleted anyway (WT:CFI, WT:RFV). Many greetings, Slablo (talk) 08:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- The original is Middle English, yes; however the translation is Modern English. It's the translation that is the citation. All the other things, such as the format and the page number can be corrected. Leasnam (talk) 05:16, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
- If you want to add citations to Middle English entries, that's fine, but you should not remove them from the English entries. It has always been the convention here that Middle English citations can be used to support English entries, if the sense in question has survived into the modern English period. (That's leaving aside the question of whether Malory is writing in early-modern or Middle English, which is a matter of purely arbitrary decision.) Ƿidsiþ 18:49, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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