Talk:Billy Jean
The following information passed a request for deletion.
This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.
A double given name. I would suggest that these double given names are sum of parts, but there could be exceptions. Marie-Ange is another one I saw,BTW, I'm only allowing one Michael Jackson reference in this RFD discussion. --Cova (talk) 08:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- What about Billy Bob, Mary Jane, Jean-Luc?Lucifer (talk) 08:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Billy Bob doesn't look special to me. Mary Jane can be kept because of its other meanings. As for Jean-Luc and other French names, maybe they are special - we should ask a French speaker about them. Personally, I know people with double names Marie-Louise and Mary-Anne (may be without hyphen). --Cova (talk) 09:17, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- I would have thought that only the ones with hyphens were really individual given names. The others seem to be simple combinations of two separate ones. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC) (who is not going to add (deprecated template usage) Jeffery Albert.)
- There are those among us who would seem likely to favor including such headwords on the grounds that individual names don't combine arbitrarily. Thus one would be hard pressed to find Billy Kit or Martha Jean. Combinations of name words can't have the supposed semantic justification that combinations of other words have. Of course, this last point is only valid as long as we are not encyclopedic with respect to proper nouns. In this case, Billy Jean is especially favored probably because it is an allusion to w:Billy Jean King, though it was a favored collocation before her fame.
- As for my personal choice, delete. DCDuring TALK 12:32, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- We could list particularly common name "collocations" in the usage notes, I suppose. Equinox ◑ 12:37, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- This isn't sum or parts, since the result is a feminine given name in English. I had an aunt named Tommy Joe. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:54, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Tommy and Joe can both be girls names. Also, I've heard of a boy named Sue before. --Cova (talk) 10:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's a song (as you may know).—msh210℠ (talk) 18:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- The parts are also females'. Delete.—msh210℠ (talk) 18:11, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- I would generally keep these. A double-first name can easily be mistaken for a first name and middle name, which it is not. bd2412 T 18:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- Tommy and Joe can both be girls names. Also, I've heard of a boy named Sue before. --Cova (talk) 10:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Kept per COALMINE. (See Billyjean.) - -sche (discuss) 04:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Whining about this decision afterwards
editThe Michael Jackson song, and the singer are spelled Billie Jean. Billie is a female given name. The definition of Billy Jean doesn't (=didn't) mention the sex. Per COALMINE, Billyjean would probably pass CFI but it's very rare; most of the b.g.c. hits are misspellings of Billie Jean. --Makaokalani (talk) 15:38, 21 September 2012 (UTC)