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This is scientifically correct. The Welsh CLUDAIR (heap) links with its meaning and ultimately derives from the root mentioned[4], or a similar word to this. 20 August 2015 (UTC) Andrew (talk)

[0] means 'Absolutely not; [1] means 'Exceedingly unlikely'; [2] means 'Very dubious'; [3] means 'Questionable'; [4] means 'Possible'; [5] means 'Probable'; [6] means 'Likely'; [7] means 'Most Likely' or *Unattested; [8] means 'Attested'; [9] means 'Obvious' - only used for close matches within the same language or dialect, at linkable periods.

Andrew (talk)

The "cl" in Welsh cludair would correspond to *hl in Germanic, but at least at the Proto-Celtic level one would expect something that starts with *gl. There's a reason w:Grimm's law is call a law: there are a few known ways that other processes interfere with it, such as w:Verner's law, and with unstressed monosyllabic function words (which may be a special case of Verner's law working across word boundaries), but unexplained exceptions are pretty rare. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


You simply don't know what you're talking about, and it's glaringly obvious to anyone who does- all of your "additions" I've seen so far start from wrong assumptions, and go downhill from there. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Andrew H. Gray 21:11, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Added a definition of cloud to included computing term.Edit

Increasingly computer scientists are referring to the "cloud" as the suspended, hosted, mass that provides remote computing resources. See for example the: Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud. This is common usage in computing and becoming much more prevalent.

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Computing sense. SemperBlotto 21:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with the definition. The following two quotes, The Industry Standard 1999, are more in line with my understanding.

"We always drew networks as amoeba-like things because they had no fixed topology and typically covered varying geographic areas," says Vint Cerf, cocreator of TCP/IP, the language of networked computers. In short, no one needs to know the exact route their data will take to get from point to point. Everything is fine as long as it comes out of the cloud at the correct address."

"Novelist William Gibson, who coined the word "cyberspace" in his classic novel Neuromancer, first encountered the Net-as-cloud metaphor while preparing for his first video teleconference. He asked the tech guys how the signals would travel across the Net. It's not going across the Net, they told him. It's going through "the cloud" - through the totality of all the phone links in the world." AlMaki

rfvfailed Cynewulf 03:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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