Talk:poor white trash
Latest comment: 11 years ago by Liliana-60 in topic RFD
RFD
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I'm having trouble considering this an idiom. Isn't it just white trash preceded immediately by the word poor? Mglovesfun (talk) 09:59, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
- WordNet and RHU have it. It might be a set phrase. DCDuring TALK 11:16, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
- Chambers has it too, under trash: "(also called white trash or poor white trash) poor whites, esp in the southern US". Equinox ◑ 14:20, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- Delete this is a sentence.Gtroy 10:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Where's the verb? SemperBlotto 10:22, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Deleted. No supporting votes, only comments. — Ungoliant (Falai) 19:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- Why isn't that lack of consensus given only nom wants delete with coherent statement? Other comments were supportive, if not outright positive votes. DCDuring TALK 22:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- You’re right. Undeleted. But here’s my vote:
delete. — Ungoliant (Falai) 22:37, 12 August 2012 (UTC)- What, no rationale?
- We may need to look into the word history, to see if poor white trash precedes white trash. DAVilla 00:57, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- If it turns out to be so, I’ll support keeping it. But the definition claims it’s an extension of white trash, which in my opinion makes it the non-idiomatic sum of white trash with an adjective describing it. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- You’re right. Undeleted. But here’s my vote:
- Why isn't that lack of consensus given only nom wants delete with coherent statement? Other comments were supportive, if not outright positive votes. DCDuring TALK 22:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Delete. Poor white trash, and nothing more.bd2412 T 16:49, 20 August 2012 (UTC)- Keep as verified and improved. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:08, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- The earliest use of "poor white trash" I can find is:
- 1835 May 30, The London Literary Gazette; and Journal of Belles Lettres, Arts, Sciences, &c., number 958; page 338 of the collected Literary Gazette […] for the year 1835 (published in London):
- In the south, there are no servants but blacks; for the greater proportion of domestics being slaves all species of servitude whatever is looked upon as a degradation; and the slaves themselves entertain the very highest contempt for white servants, whom they desginate as 'poor white trash.'
- 1835 May 30, The London Literary Gazette; and Journal of Belles Lettres, Arts, Sciences, &c., number 958; page 338 of the collected Literary Gazette […] for the year 1835 (published in London):
- The earliest usage of "white trash" I can find it from 1850, followed by a few more uses in 1855. Davilla seems to be correct that "poor white trash" came first. So... keep, per the "jiffy" test. - -sche (discuss) 05:05, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- In that case, keep, but entry needs to be changed. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Reworded. Should be kept now. - -sche (discuss) 03:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
kept -- Liliana • 09:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)