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Könntest Du mir beim Putzen helfen? Ich will die Abkürzung "q.v." in den lettischen Seiten durch "[[q.v.]]" ersetzen lassen -- so kann der Leser, dem diese Abkürzung nicht bekannt ist, sie mit einem Klick verstehen. Ich habe q.v. nur in Etymologien verwendet, also, wenn Du mir helfen willst, kannst Du nur die Seiten in der Category:Latvian etymologies from LEV mit dem Bot durchsuchen und alle q.v.'s durch [[q.v.]]'s ersetzen. --Pereru (talk) 23:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Pereru (talk)23:06, 7 December 2012

Hi Pereru,

I'm sorry, but I don't understand German at all. English or Japanese (or maybe Italian/Spanish).

BB12 (talk)05:29, 8 December 2012

Sorry about that -- the message was meant for George Animal. I didn't realize I was sending it to you. Mea culpa!...

Pereru (talk)09:42, 8 December 2012
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Last edit: 21:10, 8 December 2012

It's not your fault, it's LiquidThreads'. Whenever anyone is watching a talk-page, they get notified of all new threads on that page — which makes sense — except that the notification says "You have new messages" "There are new messages for you", and the only indication that the message isn't for them is a link off to the left that indicates what page the message was posted on. So it's easy for someone to get confused and wrongly think that a message is actually for them.

RuakhTALK13:14, 8 December 2012

I saw that it was on George_Animal's page, which made it seem even stranger. I will never watch a page with liquid threads again!

BB12 (talk)20:05, 8 December 2012

Or maybe we should create MediaWiki:Lqt-new-messages to replace "There are new messages for you" with something more helpful?

RuakhTALK21:12, 8 December 2012

How about "There are new messages on a talkpage you are watching."?

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds04:41, 11 December 2012

That's better, but it's not necessarily true: you're notified of updates to any thread you've participated in (unless you explicitly unwatch it), even if you're not watching the talk-page, and you're notified of updates to threads on your own talk-page, even if you're not watching your own talk-page.

Maybe "There are new messages in a thread you are watching"? That's technically true, even if the user didn't intend to watch the thread. It's still misleading in a case like this one, where the "new message" in question is actually the very first message in thread, but hopefully it's at least not confusingly misleading. (And it has the advantage of subtly implying that it's possible to unwatch the thread, which is something that the user might not otherwise realize.)

RuakhTALK15:42, 11 December 2012

Ah, I didn't know about that feature. Yours is better for sure. I think that since this is really minor and only affects editors, we don't really need consensus to change it.

Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds02:07, 12 December 2012

Alle q.v.'s sind durch q.v. ersetzt worden.Liebe Grüße--

GeorgeAnimal.20:11, 8 December 2012