Theudariks

Moving pages into the reconstruction namespace

Hi, Theudariks. Thank you for all your contributions to our Proto-Germanic pages. I appreciate your effort to move pages into the Reconstruction namespace, but this is unnecessary work on your part. These pages will be better and more easily moved by bot. --WikiTiki89 18:41, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Old Gutnish

Just so you know, this is considered part of Old Norse, and its language code is "non". So it doesn't get its own language line in descendants. If you want Old Gutnish to be its own language you'll have to argue your case at the WT:BP. —CodeCat 17:23, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I wasn't aware of this. Thanks --Theudariks (talk) 17:59, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

*spēnuz

Hi Theudariks! I wasn't aware that PGmc *spēnuz had acquired the meaning of "spoon" yet. I was under the impression that it developed later in Old English for flat wooden spoons (spatulas). Where did you find this? Leasnam (talk) 15:10, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Leasnam, I was reading Organic History of English words by John Morris, which gave the meaning as such; however, it is rather ambiguous so I may remove it --Theudariks (talk) 17:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

*Audawiniz

Do you have any source that confirms ?Auðvin as an attested form in Old Norse (In Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/Audawiniz)? In the sources I could find, it is only listed as an explanation for the derivation of Auðunn – Krun (talk) 01:34, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately, not. I too have only seen it listed as a hypothetical reconstruction; I think it would be best to either add an asterisk before the word, or remove it altogether --Theudariks (talk) 13:46, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Gothic gaitein

Hi! I was under the impression that this was not attested, but rather assumed based on the noun derivative *gaitein ("little goat"). Leasnam (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

...hence the Derived term on the page: *gaitīną Leasnam (talk) 16:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Leasnam! I saw this word listed in Vladimir Orel's A Handbook of Germanic Etymology, given the definition of kid. As there was no asterisk, I assumed it was attested. Should I remove it? --Theudariks (talk) 21:46, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

It's attested, because MewBot created an entry for gaitein when it created entries for all attested Gothic words. —CodeCat 22:03, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok - very good. Leasnam (talk) 09:34, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

@CodeCat Hi again...yes, it is attested, but is it attested as an adjective? I am aware of it existing only as a noun. (?) Leasnam (talk) 16:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I've created an entry for it. It's only a noun as attested, but Koebler also reconstructs gaiteins as an adjective. Not sure on what basis though. —CodeCat 17:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

harm

Hi ! You added Middle Low German harm as an adjective to *harmaz. Do you have a source for the adjective ? Leasnam (talk) 01:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Leasnam, no source, but that since a Danish loanword appears on the list as having come from OS, it was safe to assume that there was an intermediate MLG stage from which Danish borrowed the term --Theudariks (talk) 01:25, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I understand. However, Danish etymologies derive the Danish word from Old Danish, which probably means that it came from late Old Saxon. Leasnam (talk) 02:27, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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All these Germanic terms

How are you so sure that these actually existed in Proto-Germanic, and are not later innovations? —CodeCat 21:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

{{desctree}}

Why do you keep deleting {{desctree}} in descendant trees? Are you not familiar with it? --Victar (talk) 02:58, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

I had no idea how to make the edits appear, updated on the PGmc pages; the only way I could think to get this to work was to delete them re-add them --Theudariks (talk) 03:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

They'll automatically update when the cache expires, usually within a few minutes. You don't need to do anything. If you want force it to refresh, just hit preview and then publish which won't cause an edit. --Victar (talk) 03:04, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks --Theudariks (talk) 03:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

*mut-

Why is this reconstructed the way it is? Is there even a regular correspondence between OE þþ and tt in all other languages? And why is it a consonant stem anyway, if all of its descendants point to there having been another syllable? 189.197.236.75 18:59, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

bestelan and PG source

Hi Theudariks. Thanks for righting the error I made (can't believe it got by me)! Even though it says it is from PG *bistelaną, I personally don't know if it existed in that time or if it was made later on (I took the PG source from besteal). It might or might not have been in PG, but I just don't know, so I'm just giving a heads up. Anglish4699 (talk) 02:11, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

It could have been a descendant of PGmc, as there are cognates in other Gmc languages, and PGmc seems to have had a number of words prefixed with bi-. Reconstructing *bistelaną is very plausible. --Theudariks (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

𐍅𐍉𐌸𐍃

Should this be RFV'd? DTLHS (talk) 02:08, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

It probably should be, just to be safe, but there are several references to it on Wiktionary itself, so I'm assuming the word does exist Theudariks (talk) 02:46, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Mauritian Creole

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