Talk:on fleek

RFV discussion: May–July 2015

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on fleek

Accent?

Why is the pronunciation recording done in a British accent? This is an African American slang term, so it should be done by a voice that sounds African American...or at least American. It's absurd (albeit hilarious) to have it sound British.

This is an RFV for the second sense, viz. "(slang) on point". Its inclusion is supported by no more reliable a source than the Urban Dictionary. Do there exist three or more independent citations, conveying this sense, in durably archived media, spanning at least a year, per the criteria for inclusion? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:03, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

I'd RFV the first sense and fleek as well. Since the Vine that brought this to the public's attention is less than a year old, I'm guessing the answer to your question is no. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

I'd imagine this pretty clearly qualifies as a hot word, unless I've misunderstood that term. —JohnC5 19:57, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, hot words are supposed to be words that have citations that satisfy all of the requirements except spanning a year (see Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2014/March#Hot words). So far, this entry doesn't have any citations. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 20:06, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

I think the two definitions refer to the same meaning, but I found only one use of the term in Google Books which I added to the entry. Einstein2 (talk) 10:12, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Cited. This is unquestionably a hot word. There are plenty of citations out there, and the media is writing articles on it. I suppose the entry could be condensed into a single definition, but if if you look at the cites, you'll see that the eyebrow/hair-specific and clothing-specific usages predate the general "perfect" usages, albeit by only a few months. Thus, I thought it necessary to split the entry into three definitions. -Cloudcuckoolander (talk) 21:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

RFV "passed", then (as a hot word); this discussion can be archived and the word can be revisited after a year. - -sche (discuss) 07:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I am SURE a Vine'er was borrowing a term from Afrikaans! Lol

"It has also been suggested that "on fleek" may have derived from Afrikaans ongelooflik and Dutch ongelofelijk, meaning 'incredible' or 'unbelievable'; also compare German unglaublich." Ummm. No. Dumb coincidence! Lol. It is just a millenialization or bast@rdization of "fly and sleek, => fleek." Mockingly yours, Vid2vid (talk) 22:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC).

Thanks for pointing this out. I agree it's divorced from reality, and have removed it from the etymology. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:12, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

RFV discussion: July 2022

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on fleek (adverb sense)

Didn't really find any adverbial use of this term. (Pinging @Equinox who added this sense.) — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:16, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@Sgconlaw: Clearly the right thing to do here is to forget the adjective, adverb stuff and just turn it into Prepositional Phrase (en-PP), yes? Equinox ◑ 01:05, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

@Equinox: but if there actually aren't any adverbial uses, we can just remove that sense ... — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:05, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Only if you're going to be a dick about it. Compare on point which is PP (and, as far as I can understand, a synonym). Equinox ◑ 14:22, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Not sure how removing an unattested adverb is “being a dick”. J3133 (talk) 14:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Refusing to convert the entry to the correct part of speech is deliberate obstruction. Equinox ◑ 20:42, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

@Equinox: oh well, I'm not a linguistic expert. In any case, if the part of speech is changed we'd presumably still have to remove the "adverb" sense. — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:12, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, then you'll win and can dance on my grave. Happy now? Or does it have to be "word of the day"? Equinox ◑ 22:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

It was already Word of the Day on 18 July … — Sgconlaw (talk) 22:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Resolved: part of speech heading changed to “Prepositional phrase”. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)