Talk:Nidderlande
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Angr in topic RFM discussion: July–August 2017
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The correct lemma is Nidderlanden; this is the version you would find as a result of n-deletion (w:Eifeler Regel). I'm not sure how we deal with such entries, but as far as I'm aware no other n-deleted forms have their own entries here. BigDom 09:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Technically speaking, this is a sandhi variant, and most languages have them. When it's a regular part of the orthography, such as English a vs. an, French mon vs. ma and mutations in Celtic languages, we have entries for them (usually as a type of alternative form). When it's not, we don't. Either way, we would never have the variant instead of the main form. I support the move, and leave it to others as to whether we want to have an entry for this form or not, and whether to treat it as a misspelling. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:22, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- It is a regular part of the orthography and reflects the pronunciation; final -n (when it is the final letter of an adjective, pronoun or preposition, or part of a suffix such as -en for plurals and verbs; most singular nouns and loanwords are excluded) is deleted before consonants other than <d>, <h>, <n>, <t> and <z>. I agree that we maybe should have entries for these forms; they appear commonly in written texts so it is feasible that a user would search for them, and they might be confused upon finding only the dictionary form (with final -n) if they were unaware of the Eifel Rule. BigDom 13:37, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- I've moved the main entry to Nidderlanden and re-created Nidderlande as a
{{form of}}the main lemma. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:15, 7 August 2017 (UTC)