Talk:midgetellan

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midgetelan (moved to midgetellan)

Old English. Possibly just vandalism (the same editor who moved and possibly also created the page also did this), so feel free to speedy and delete this discussion without archiving. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 22:47, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Just delete this nonsense; the digraph ⟨dg⟩ is later than Old English, which had ⟨ċġ⟩ or ⟨ġġ⟩. The page was initially created as midgetel, which does not make sense as a verb, but almost immediately moved, a few hours before the editor created the now deleted midgetellan. The creator may have wanted to taunt someone called El by labelling them a midget.  --Lambiam 10:39, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

I am the creator on another IP address that does not allow responses. I don’t know why you assume it is a digraph; it is pronounced (IPA) /dj/. 168.216.10.225 18:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Lambiam, I don't know why you think it's a digraph. It represents the sounds (IPA) /dj/. "Midget" is pure coincidence, also I did all edits on this one except for the rfv tag. Also, if anyone can find a quotation, please add it... I see it in many dictionaries bot no bibliographies. 74.33.92.101 19:13, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

@Surjection @Lambiam the spelling in glossaries is midġetellan, apparently mid- +‎ ġe- +‎ tellan. I wouldn't know where to find a formal cite to pass the RFV, but there must be one out there. This, that and the other (talk) 05:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

A conjugated form of midgetellan occurs in the article ang:Peru on the Old English Wikipedia, but I guess that even for an LDL that does not count. Bosworth–Toller online also has a sense “to include (in a class)” for just getellan.  --Lambiam 07:20, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I tracked down the cite: part of an OE/Latin prayer interlinear in MS Arundel 155 in the British Library, relevant pages transcribed in the 40s. Added to the page. Manifestly the word is midgetellan (two l's), so move? Winthrop23 (talk) 23:56, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes; I'm moving it to midgetellan now. —Mahāgaja · talk 10:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, passed now that it's been moved and cited. - -sche (discuss) 01:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)