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Warning edit

You are advised to work on languages that you are familiar with. Kindly refrain from adding modern transcriptions of Đông Yên Châu inscription, Kedukan Bukit inscription, Hikayat Bayan Budiman, Syair Siti Zubaidah Perang Cina, etc. unless you are an expert familiar with Classical Malay and Old Malay. Do not add verbatim translations copied from external sources without a proper understanding of the original text. The addition of quotes that reflect modern usage of the terms is preferred and much welcomed. KevinUp (talk) 11:10, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

I would like to thank you for all your edits so far. Kindly pick up a copy of Berita Harian from your local newsvendor as well as a copy of the Oxford English-Malay Bilingual Dictionary from your local bookstore or library to improve on your language skills. Also, read all of (1) Wiktionary:Entry layout and (2) Wiktionary:Style guide. As a general guide, if you're not sure of something, don't add it to the entry or make any changes to it. Post instead at the entry's talk page or at discussion rooms such as the Tea room. Quite a number of your edits have been misleading, so please take note of it. KevinUp (talk) 12:50, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Stress edit

You are advised not to add any stress patterns to Malay pronunciation. Please take your time to read the following article: How Words can be Misleading: A Study of Syllable Timing and ‘Stress’ in Malay (http://www.linguistics-journal.com/2014/01/08/how-words-can-be-misleading-a-study-of-syllable-timing-and-stress-in-malay/). KevinUp (talk) 14:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

In case the article is too long to be read, here is the conclusion drawn by the resarchers, quoted verbatim: "The first conclusion to be drawn is that there are no phenomena in spoken Malay corresponding to what phonologists call stress, and that the whole notion of stress is completely irrelevant in the description of Malay. The pitch may go up and down, loudness and tempo may increase or decrease, and on occasion the effect may be superficially similar to that produced by stress in a language like English; but these phenomena are all accounted for independently of stress." KevinUp (talk) 14:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Subordinate headers for entries with multiple etymologies edit

According to Wiktionary:Entry layout#Etymology, in the case of multiple etymologies, all subordinate headers need to have their levels increased by 1 in order to comply with the fundamental concept of showing dependence through nesting. Unfortunately, this means that I have to revert some of your recent edits. Once again, please take your time to read through these: (1) Wiktionary:Entry layout and (2) Wiktionary:Style guide to improve on your editing skills. KevinUp (talk) 16:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

You are still doing these headers incorrectly, even changing some entries to have wrong header levels. Please stop. SURJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 14:37, 10 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

This is the final warning; if you keep doing such edits without commenting here what exactly you think you are doing, applying a block is the only remaining option. SURJECTION ·talk·contr·log· 12:06, 11 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Surjection: Seems like User:Epichaericacianus is wrongly adjusting headers once again. See (1) this edit on en and (2) this edit on exitus. @Epichaericacianus Please stop adjusting headers. You might get blocked for a second time if you continue to make the same mistake. KevinUp (talk) 15:46, 21 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Epichaericacianus Gentle reminder: Do not reduce header levels under Etymology 1, 2, etc. Note that this edit on science is incorrect. KevinUp (talk) 13:25, 22 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Book quotations edit

Hello. Just want to inform you that archive URLs are usually used to archive quotes from online material that can be preserved exactly as it is found. Unfortunately, some materials such as images from Google Books cannot be archived, so book quotations using the |pageurl= parameter don't need an additional |archiveurl= parameter. Also, be sure to use {{quote-journal}} or {{quote-book}} instead of {{quote-text}} or {{quote-web}} for online versions of books or journal articles (including magazines and newspapers) that are also printed on paper. By the way, good job on adding links to English quotes, so keep up the good work. Your recent edits are getting much better. KevinUp (talk) 18:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Brixitus edit

I've deleted this, because there doesn't seem to be sufficient evidence that it meets our criteria for inclusion. Please do not create entries just because a word could exist; at Wiktionary, we need evidence that a word does exist, and has been used in print or other durably archived sources. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC)Reply