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Alphabetize definition componentsEdit
I can't agree with this. The ordering of words might be deliberate. I personally tend to put accurate translations near the front, and looser translations near the end. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 04:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Suzukaze-c: My feeling on this matter is that all definition components are equal if they're listed under the same list item; the order should therefore not change the meaning. If definition components are not synonymous, then they should be split into independent (numbered) list items.
- The order may indeed be deliberate, but I don't think editors should be put in the position of reading minds. Patrick Dark (talk) 04:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Wiktionary does not adopt the policy of alphabetizing definition components. Please stop doing this. Thanks. ---> Tooironic (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- And here: 走開. ---> Tooironic (talk) 02:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Tooironic: I already receive notifications of reverts, so there's no need to note them unless providing a reason for the reverts (which will be appreciated).
- @Suzukaze-c, Tooironic: Suzukaze-c reverted several of my edits and stated at https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%A9%97&action=history "for better or for worse we don't use specific headers on hanzi" as an explanation when I attempted to use parts of speech headings like the headings you just restored. I don't understand how both of your opposite policies can be correct, so it'd be nice to have feedback from both of you as to which is correct/incorrect; I'm happy to enforce whichever.
- (I recall briefly reading awhile back on one of the Chinese editors' pages that Suzukaze-c's statement was not the policy even if it's sometimes difficult to place Chinese words into parts of speech categories, which is why I made the initial changes to add parts of speech headings which, again, were reverted.) Patrick Dark (talk) 02:46, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hmm; by hanzi I meant "individual hanzi", like 字#Definitions. I guess my wording wasn't clear enough.
- Words (詞語#Noun) are split up. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 02:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- See also Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2014/May#New_L3_for_Chinese and WT:AZH (looking over it again the latter might not be clear enough—please suggest corrections). —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 02:57, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Suzukaze-c, Tooironic: Ah, yes, that's the document I read. OK, the "hanzi" character policy is clear enough. Thanks for the explanation; I consider this issue resolved then.
- And I'll review that thread again in a bit and add a clarification if needed per your suggestion. Patrick Dark (talk) 03:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your understanding. I know it's a bit confusing. Basically, at the moment we mark explicit parts of speech for 詞 entries only. For individual 字, we list definitions instead. Ideally, we should have a consistent policy for both types of entries, however the amount of work required to change the thousands of 詞 entries makes this infeasible for now. ---> Tooironic (talk) 03:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)