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Again, welcome! —This unsigned comment was added by Justinrleung (talkcontribs) at 02:34, 5 February 2017 (UTC).

Alphabetize definition componentsEdit

I can't agree with this. The ordering of words might be deliberate. I personally tend to put accurate translations near the front, and looser translations near the end. —Suzukaze-c 04:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: My feeling on this matter is that all definition components are equal if they're listed under the same list item; the order should therefore not change the meaning. If definition components are not synonymous, then they should be split into independent (numbered) list items.
The order may indeed be deliberate, but I don't think editors should be put in the position of reading minds. Patrick Dark (talk) 04:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Wiktionary does not adopt the policy of alphabetizing definition components. Please stop doing this. Thanks. ---> Tooironic (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
@Suzukaze-c, Tooironic: I'll do as requested.
It'd be nice if this policy could be formalized (if it isn't already). Patrick Dark (talk) 02:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Well there isn't a policy, that's the whole point. Thank you for your cooperation. ---> Tooironic (talk) 03:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)


Please note my revert here. ---> Tooironic (talk) 02:25, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

  • And here: 走開. ---> Tooironic (talk) 02:26, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
    • @Tooironic: I already receive notifications of reverts, so there's no need to note them unless providing a reason for the reverts (which will be appreciated).
    • @Suzukaze-c, Tooironic: Suzukaze-c reverted several of my edits and stated at "for better or for worse we don't use specific headers on hanzi" as an explanation when I attempted to use parts of speech headings like the headings you just restored. I don't understand how both of your opposite policies can be correct, so it'd be nice to have feedback from both of you as to which is correct/incorrect; I'm happy to enforce whichever.
    • (I recall briefly reading awhile back on one of the Chinese editors' pages that Suzukaze-c's statement was not the policy even if it's sometimes difficult to place Chinese words into parts of speech categories, which is why I made the initial changes to add parts of speech headings which, again, were reverted.) Patrick Dark (talk) 02:46, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your understanding. I know it's a bit confusing. Basically, at the moment we mark explicit parts of speech for entries only. For individual , we list definitions instead. Ideally, we should have a consistent policy for both types of entries, however the amount of work required to change the thousands of 詞 entries makes this infeasible for now. ---> Tooironic (talk) 03:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
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