JapaneseEdit

Kanji in this term
ろん
Grade: 6
がい
Grade: 2
on’yomi

EtymologyEdit

/ronɡwai//ronɡai/

Probably from Middle Chinese compound 論外 (lwonH ngwajH, literally discussion + outside).

Alternately, may be a Japanese coinage from Middle Chinese-derived elements, as a compound of (ron, argument; theory) +‎ (gai, outside).

PronunciationEdit

AdjectiveEdit

(ろん)(がい) (rongaiろんぐわい (rongwai)? -na (adnominal (ろん)(がい) (rongai na), adverbial (ろん)(がい) (rongai ni))

  1. irrelevant, beside the point, out of the question

InflectionEdit

Usage notesEdit

Listed explicitly in some dictionaries[1][2][3] as a -na type adjective. Also used as a noun followed by particle (no) to modify other nouns.[2][3]

NounEdit

(ろん)(がい) (rongaiろんぐわい (rongwai)?

  1. something outside the scope of discussion, something that is off-topic
    論外(ろんがい)意見(いけん)
    rongai no iken
    an opinion that is off-topic, an irrelevant opinion

ReferencesEdit

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 2006, 大辞林 (Daijirin), Third Edition (in Japanese), Tōkyō: Sanseidō, →ISBN
  2. 2.0 2.1 1995, 大辞泉 (Daijisen) (in Japanese), Tōkyō: Shogakukan, →ISBN
  3. 3.0 3.1 1997, 新明解国語辞典 (Shin Meikai Kokugo Jiten), Fifth Edition (in Japanese), Tōkyō: Sanseidō, →ISBN