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porcupine

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Hi. For the word porcupine, you added the Inuktitut word, but it does not look correct to me. I would have expected ᐃᓛᓐᖁᑦᓯᖅ (ilaanqutsiq), but you put ᐃᓛᖁᑦᓯᖅ (ilaaqutsiq). Can you check your source? —Stephen (Talk) 07:21, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello Stephen,
when searching for this word, I used inuktitut Wikipedia. It seems OK to me but I don't speak much Inuktitut so I checked it also here, where I got ilâKutsik/illâgusik (which are probably differences in dialects). So... I can't say I'm sure it's correct but I think so. If you found your version somewhere, feel free to add it or correct mine. :)
--MahiraYT (talk) 11:24, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
No, it is possible that it’s correct. My version is Yup’ik language. I would expect some differences, but I’m surprised about the missing -n-. —Stephen (Talk) 12:27, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Translations

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Translations are required to follow the rules in our Criteria for inclusion, since people who click on a redlink will tend to create an entry for it. We are a descriptive dictionary and only have entries for term that are or have been in actual use by speakers, as demonstrated in durably-archived sources. It doesn't matter if you've made it up yourself, or if you've copied it from somebody else that made it up- if it's made up and has never been in use, we don't want it.

Note also that wikis aren't valid sources, especially Wikipedias. Wikipedia editors in languages without an extensive body of text often make up terms because they don't know the correct name for something, or there isn't one. There are also dead languages that people are trying to recreate for modern usage, such as Old English, Gothic and Old Church Slavonic. These recreations are really constructed languages which are based on the original languages, not the original languages themselves. Neither these recreated languages nor anything that only exists on wikis or on various web sites can be an entry or translation in Wiktionary.

I also notice that you're creating translations in large numbers of languages. Unless you know something about those languages you don't personally speak and are getting your information from reliable sources such as dictionaries, this is a very bad idea. There's a lot of bad information out there, and we shouldn't be perpetuating it.

I understand that you mean well, and that you're putting a lot of work into your translations, but you've already added obvious misinformation in the edits that have been reverted, and there's a high probability that there's more misinformation scattered throughout the rest of your edits. That means people who know these languages will have to waste time going through them and checking them- time they could be using to do their own, more accurate translations. For languages that we don't have expertise on, that means that there's incorrect information that will be copied by other websites and degrade the quality of information on the web.

Please only add information that you know to be correct, based on real usage, and that you know not to be made up. If we find that you're continuing to do otherwise, you may be blocked. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I second the warning. You apparently have no clue about Belarusian, even if you're of Slavic origin, since you added Belarusian translations in the plural form on fireworks.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:03, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
My apologies. I have reviewed your edit more closely on a desktop computer. They are correct on fireworks. Although we should use stress marks on East Slavic and Bulgarian terms. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Apologies accepted. I'm not going to forget the stress marks again. MahiraYT (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Babel

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Would you add {{Babel}} to your user page? I'd appreciate it. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:40, 30 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

My page with Babel on Czech Wikipedia :) - MahiraYT (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. For reference, that page lists the following grades that are at least 3: cs-N, pl-5, en-5, eo-5, ru-4, be-4, sk-4, yi-3, and de-3. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:25, 31 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Yiddish

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Please follow see WT:About Yiddish for our orthographic rules for Yiddish. We do not use the ligatures װ/ױ/ײ (except for ײַ) and instead spell them out as וו/וי/יי. Also, don't add unattestable translations (see WT:CFI#Attestation) such as פֿראַזעסבוך. --WikiTiki89 14:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

You are still adding unattestable Yiddish translations, as you did at chopstick. Please stop. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:54, 1 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
You mean my "caviar" entry, I suppose. I really don't know why do you find this word unattestable, as you'd be able to find it in this online dictionary and for the sake of checking, even though I'm 100% sure about this word, I checked it in my YI-EN EN-YI dictionary. I don't know how more attestable would you like it to be.
And a propos my "chopstick" entry, you can find it in that not-online dictionary too. My only error was, that I forgot '-' in that compound word. So I'd like to ask you to stop deleting my entries as they're absolutely verifiable. Thank you, MahiraYT (talk) 00:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)Reply