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Rename the Wikisaurus namespace edit

Voting on:

Proposal 1: Aliasing (i.e., automatically redirecting) "Thesaurus:" to "Wikisaurus:".

(examples: Thesaurus:good → Wikisaurus:good, Thesaurus:beverage → Wikisaurus:beverage, etc.)

Proposal 2: Aliasing (i.e., automatically redirecting) "Synonyms:" to "Wikisaurus:".

(examples: Synonyms:good → Wikisaurus:good, Synonyms:beverage → Wikisaurus:beverage, etc.)

Proposal 3: Moving all the (otherwise unchanged) contents of "Wikisaurus:" to either "Thesaurus:" or "Synonyms:", while keeping "Wikisaurus:" as a namespace alias.

Part 1: Vote whether the namespace should be renamed in the first place.
Part 2: Vote on which of the names should be chosen.
Procedural note: If the "part 1" vote fails, then the "part 2" vote is void.
(naturally, if "Wikisaurus:" is renamed, then any alias approved in the previous proposals will redirect to the new namespace name, unless the alias itself is the new main name of the namespace)

Schedule:

Discussion:

Proposal 1: "Thesaurus:" as an alias edit

Support edit

  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support. I don't see why not. -Xbony2 (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support Equinox ◑ 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support Only if renaming the namespace to Thesaurus cannot be done; oppose otherwise. Since, if the namespace will be called Thesaurus, there will of course be no alias Thesaurus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, I sort of think that's implied :P although the vote itself isn't too specific so your safety net is well-noted. If need be my vote should be counted in the same fashion -Xbony2 (talk) 20:22, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    This possibility was predicted in the note in the vote description that starts with: "naturally, if "Wikisaurus:" is renamed, ..." --Daniel Carrero (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  7.   Support - TheDaveRoss 15:04, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  8.   Support —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose edit

Abstain edit

Proposal 2: "Synonyms:" as an alias edit

Support edit

  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support. I don't see why not. -Xbony2 (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose edit

  1.   Oppose Since the pages are not only for synonyms, this would be inaccurate. "Synonyms" is not even shorter to type than "Thesaurus:". A shorter and still reasonably accurate alias would be "Nyms:", even though Wikisaurus does not cover certain -nym relations such as homonyms; it covers synonyms, antonyms, hyponyms, hypernyms, holonyms and meronyms. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:19, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Oppose per User:Dan Polansky. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:09, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Oppose, but like Dan I would support "Nyms" as an alias, just because it's a lot easier/faster to type. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Oppose DCDuring (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain edit

  1.   Abstain – Synonyms are one of the semantic relations covered by the namespace (though I would guess the most numerous one), and it wouldn't exactly hurt to use the word as a redirect. But to be consistent, all the -nyms that Dan Polansky listed above should be redirects as well. — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Abstain — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Abstain __Gamren (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Abstain —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal 3, part 1: Move all contents of "Wikisaurus:" to either "Thesaurus:" or "Synonyms:" edit

Support edit

  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support -Xbony2 (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support Equinox ◑ 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support Move all contents of "Wikisaurus:" to "Thesaurus:", ideally (not necessarily) by renaming the namespace to Thesaurus and aliasing Wikisaurus to that namespace; oppose for "Synonyms:". --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:23, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support – Only if "Thesaurus" is chosen. — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support if moved to "Thesaurus:"--Barytonesis (talk) 12:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  7.   Support if and only if it’s to ‘Thesaurus:’ — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  8.   Support - TheDaveRoss 15:05, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  9.   Support __Gamren (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  10.   Support —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  11.   Support. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  12.   Support -- BigDom 11:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  Support - most logical option, since readers are likely to have heard of a "thesaurus", but not a "Wikisaurus". bd2412 T 00:43, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Struck late vote. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose edit

Abstain edit

Proposal 3, part 2: If the proposal 3, part 1, passes, what should the name be? edit

"Thesaurus:" edit

Support edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support -Xbony2 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support Equinox ◑ 16:09, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support --Barytonesis (talk) 12:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  7.   Support — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  8.   Support Will already be familiar to users. Also, using wiki- as a prefix strikes me as sort of whimsical.__Gamren (talk) 13:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  9.   Support —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  10.   Support. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  11.   Support DCDuring (talk) 03:38, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  12.   Support -- BigDom 11:50, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  Support bd2412 T 01:01, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Struck late vote. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
Abstain edit
  1.   Abstain I liked the name Wikisaurus, but Thesaurus does sound a bit more appropriate and formal. I can't decide which I'd rather have. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:14, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Synonyms:" edit

Support edit
Oppose edit
  1.   Oppose. There are antonyms, hypernyms, hyponyms, etc., not just synonyms. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Oppose per above. -Xbony2 (talk) 16:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Oppose per Daniel C. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Oppose per above. PseudoSkull (talk) 06:12, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Oppose — Eru·tuon 06:44, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Oppose — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 18:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  7.   Oppose —Aryaman (मुझसे बात करो) 14:00, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  8.   Oppose per above. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:10, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  9.   Oppose DCDuring (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain edit

Decision edit

Decision:

  • "Thesaurus:" is going to be the new namespace name, as per the proposal 2.
  • "Wikisaurus:" is going to be kept as an alias, as said in the vote description.
  • Nothing will be done concerning the proposed "Synonyms:".

Phabricator task: phab:T174264.

Breakdown:

  • Proposal 1: "Thesaurus:" as an alias.
    Passed but superseded by the proposal 3. "Thesaurus" is going to be the main name, not an alias.
    Vote count: Technically, 6-2-0 (75%) but only because @Dan Polansky and @Xbony2 made it clear that they vote "oppose" if "Thesaurus" is going to be the new name. This was not needed, because the "main name" proposal overrides the "alias" proposal as predicted in the vote text, but it gets counted anyway.
    [Superficially, the vote count would be this, which does not actually count: 8-0-0 (100%).]
  • Proposal 2: "Synonyms:" as an alias.
    Failed.
    Vote count: 2-4-4 (33.33%)
  • Proposal 3, part 1: Move all contents of "Wikisaurus:" to either "Thesaurus:" or "Synonyms:"
    Passed.
    Vote count: 12-0-0 (100%). 11-1-0 (91.66%) for "Synonyms:" as per Dan Polansky. To be fair, nobody seems to be a fan of "Synonyms:", as shown below.
  • Proposal 3, part 2: "Thesaurus:".
    Passed.
    Vote count: 12-0-1 (100%).
  • Proposal 3, part 2: "Synonyms:".
    Failed.
    Vote count: 0-9-0 (0%).

--Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:26, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the Phabricator ticket has been completed, I think there are a bunch of instances of "Wikisaurus" in the Category:Wikisaurus templates that should be changed to "Thesaurus" to avoid confusion. —JohnC5 23:18, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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