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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Ultimateria (talk) 17:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

ko-hanja

FYI, {{ko-hanja|밝다|밝을|랑||낭}} is equivalent to {{ko-hanja|[[밝다|밝을]]|랑||낭}}. Save some keystrokes ^^ —Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:55, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip :) LoutK (talk) 05:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Could I interest you in cleaning up these entries? They are the remaining entries that have hundok in the old format, but I didn't want to think about them because they have commas ^^; —Suzukaze-c (talk) 04:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I will definitely check them out :) LoutK (talk) 16:12, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

택시를 타야겠어요

Hi,

Do we cover 야겠다 anywhere? I looked at 야#Etymology_6 but the definitions don't make much sense. I found my answer on this site but it would be good that we cover more grammar point in one way or another. So does 택시를 타야겠어요 mean "I'd better take a taxi"?

@HappyMidnight, TAKASUGI Shinji: What do you think? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 11:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Pocket Progressive Korean Dictionary has the entry 아야겠다. It’s from a contraction of (아/어)야 하겠다. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 11:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I made an article, 아야겠 for learners based on a free dictionary of National Institute of Korean Language. HappyMidnight (talk) 12:21, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@TAKASUGI Shinji, HappyMidnight: Thank you both!. I've added a usage example, pls check. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 13:04, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Transliterating Early Mandarin

Hi LoutK,

If you have the time, could you check the romanizations for the five entries we have in Category:Korean terms borrowed from Early Mandarin? I've been using modern pinyin but obviously that's not correct... Thanks!--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 10:56, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Karaeng Matoaya: I was able to add Early Mandarin reconstructions for three. Unfortunately, my source Pulleyblank (1991, Vancouver) didn't have the reconstructions to fill in all of them. 피리 and 비단 were missing one each :( —LoutK (talk) 02:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!! Could you have a look at 진딧 as well?--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 21:07, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

(BTW, it is probably better if you add the character information to pages such as Module:zh/data/pulleyblank/古 instead of directly on the page. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC))

@Suzukaze-c: You're right. It's probably better to do that in the long run. Just added that for 茶. —LoutK (talk) 06:20, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Marking Middle Korean accent

What do you think about marking Middle Korean 平聲 with a grave accent in the romanization, e.g. 나모 > nàmwò ?

This isn't the way things are normally done, of course (though I do remember seeing it from Alexander Vovin), but currently only some MK entries have pitch accent marked while most entries don't. This means that when users discover an MK form without the 방점 and a romanization without diacritics, they can't know whether that's intentional or just another entry unmarked for pitch.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 14:06, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Karaeng Matoaya: That's an excellent idea. The problem seems to stem from the fact that sources don't usually include 방점. I'm assuming for technical reasons? —LoutK (talk) 18:11, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@LoutK: Apparently KS X 1001 is unable to encode 방점, so it's probably that. I'll go and add graves to all MK forms that already have the pitch marked, just to make things consistent in the future.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 18:26, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

In what proved to be truly remarkably tedious, I've added MK pitch for about sixty Korean etymology sections. Hopefully someone finds it useful eventually. There are also many MK verbs with irregular pitch patterns which I thought were better to just leave unmarked.--Karaeng Matoaya (talk) 19:44, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Karaeng Matoaya: Sorry for the late reply... Adding MK pitch is certainly tedious, indeed. I know how it feels. Most transcripts of the Hunmong Jahoe don't include those marks (here is a useful one), so I end up having to look it up from the actual source — and that's only one syllable to care about! But It does lead to a more accurate etymology (like in 種), and for MK, that should definitely include 방점.

Anyways, I think your contributions to Korean entries (especially the historical ones) are one of the best we've had on this project!! 많이 배우고 갑니다!! — LoutK (talk) 15:22, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

앞

1. fore, front

   앞으로 나오세요.

   Apeuro naoseyo.

   Come to the front.

   Synonym: 뒤 (dwi, “back, latter, rear”)

2. south

   앞바람

   apbaram

   southern wind

   앞대

   apdae

   Based on a which region, it is a word that refers to the southern region of that region.