Talk:竜

RFV discussion: April 2019–February 2021

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竜

Korean: Need to find usages, not mentions, some dictionaries bulk-insert all variant Chinese characters, mixing simplified (Chinese or Japanese), even if they are not used in those languages. @KevinUp: Sorry, I don't need to be mean, I just don't think it's right. A dictionary mention is not enough. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:25, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I found something on Google Books: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] KevinUp (talk) 23:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

The two quotations are obviously mentions and the third is Chinese, no? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 00:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I added the Korean entry based on the Table of Hanja for Personal Names (인명용한자표), which listed this glyph as a variant form of 龍.

Yes, the first one is obviously a mention of the glyph as an alternative form of 龍. The remaining citations indicate that this glyph may be used as a proper noun for various placenames. KevinUp (talk) 00:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

竜

Chinese: as above (Korean). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:25, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

(1) Hanyu Da Zidian (2nd edition, page 2897) has the following citation:

含華吐豔，竜章鳳采。 [Classical Chinese, trad.]
含华吐艳，竜章凤采。 [Classical Chinese, simp.]

From: 597 AD, 楊秀 《美人董氏墓誌銘》

Hán huá tù yàn, lóng zhāng fèng cǎi. [Pinyin]

(please add an English translation of this usage example)

(2) Kangxi dictionary has the following citation:

【字彙補】雲南有佴革竜地，有九山最險。 [Classical Chinese, trad.]
【字汇补】云南有佴革竜地，有九山最险。 [Classical Chinese, simp.]

From: 1666 AD, 吳任臣 《字彙補》

【 Zìhuì bǔ 】 Yúnnán yǒu èr gé lóng dì, yǒu jiǔ shān zuì xiǎn. [Pinyin]

Transcription of a placename in Yunnan.

(3) More search results at Wikisource Chinese: [6]

For Chinese characters, many tend to be archaic or obsolete and lack proper citations. Fortunately this character has some. KevinUp (talk) 23:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I will check these, thanks --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 00:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@KevinUp: IKR? Johnny Shiz (talk) 20:57, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

• KevinUp: It seems like for the first quotation from 美人董氏墓誌銘, the character is actually 𥪖 if we look at scans of the inscription like this, so I don't know if it'd be a valid citation even if it's written as 竜 in Hanyu Da Zidian. Of course, there should be more citations out there, so I'll fish for more. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 03:01, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

• Cited for Chinese. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 07:30, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

• RFV passed for Chinese. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 09:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

RFV-deleted (Korean). — surjection ⟨??⟩ 18:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)