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Again, welcome! --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 01:29, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Checking VietnameseEdit

Hi! Thanks for the Vietnamese entries! If you get some time, can you have a look at These 47 (at the moment) Vietnamese entries? They were created by a bot years ago, and probably are missing lots of information. They may even be incorrect. Thanks! --P5Nd2 (talk) 11:49, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Vietnamese entriesEdit

Chào, thank you for all your Vietnamese etymologies and entries! You don't happen to have a copy of Ferlus' 2007 article on Proto-Viet-Muong, do you? ;) Wyang (talk) 09:48, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Nope, actually I use SEAlang.PhanAnh123 (talk)
Ah, no worries. I've been looking for that manuscript for years now... It seems both Michel Ferlus and Mark Alves are advisors for the Vietic portion of the Sealang project. I wonder if it's worthwhile to contact them to see if they have any resources for Proto-Viet-Muong; Alves seems fairly active academically and his contact email can be found online. Wyang (talk) 10:02, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
If you have already contacted Dr. Alves or would like to, please let me know — otherwise I may contact him via email sometime this week. Anyway, happy editing! Wyang (talk) 11:15, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
And then there are requested entries as well. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 12:27, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


I am not particularly bothered, as it's only Vietnamese, but reverting my edit has automatically restored two unwanted hidden categories, Category:etyl cleanup and Category:etyl cleanup no target/language. DonnanZ (talk) 10:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)


If you are interested ― I've received a reply from Prof. Mark Alves regarding Proto-Vietic reconstructions:

“... I am currently working on more specific identification of phonological patterns, semantic classes, and etymological details of Vietic vocabulary. I will make such data available around the time of the SEALS conference in May of 2018.
-- Mark”.

You've probably discovered this already, but in case you haven't: the source-specific lists for Sealang can be generated here. Wyang (talk) 12:48, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Thốt nốt tnaot & /tu:t/Edit

Are you sure the "thốt"'s & "nốt"'s rhyme "-ốt" was due to Khmu's influence? According to Suwilai 2002 & Lin 1974, the two dialects possessing /tu:t/ for tree are Cuang & Yuan (Yuan's /tu:t/ was ound only in compound /tuːt səʔɔ́ːŋ/). Cuang also has /ctwɔːt/. I've yet able to locate Yuan-speakers, yet Cuang speakers live in Laos. So I think this is unlikely that any of these two groups could've loaned //tu:t/ into Vietnamese as Vietnamese were migrating southwards. Meanwhile, Khmer rhyme /aot/ might also be borrowed into Vietnamese as /ot̚˧˦/ as Vietnamese phonotactics does not allow diphthong /ao/.Erminwin (talk) 23:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

It was written in Shorto's A Mon-Khmer comparative dictionary: "Vietnamese may be a loan from Khmuic, cf. with thốt-Kammu-Yuan tuːt plant, Thin tŭt tree". I myself actually also skeptical about it.PhanAnh123 (talk) 23:41, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


Hi PhanAnh123, you added "tip, extreme end" as a definition in mút. Could you add an example that shows how this word is used in a sentence? Thanks in advance. Pamputt (talk) 22:23, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

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