Wiktionary

討論

See also: 讨论

Chinese edit

 
ask for; send punitive expedition; to demand
ask for; send punitive expedition; to demand; to marry
 
to talk (about); to discuss; theory
to talk (about); to discuss; theory; by the; per; the Analects (of Confucius)
trad. (討論) 討 論
simp. (讨论) 讨 论

Pronunciation edit

Rime
Character 討 論 論
Reading # 1/1 2/3 3/3
Initial (聲) 透 (6) 來 (37) 來 (37)
Final (韻) 豪 (89) 魂 (55) 魂 (55)
Tone (調) Rising (X) Level (Ø) Departing (H)
Openness (開合) Open Closed Closed
Division (等) I I I
Fanqie 他浩切 盧昆切 盧困切
Baxter thawX lwon lwonH
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang
Shangfang 		/tʰɑuX/ /luən/ /luənH/
Pan
Wuyun 		/tʰɑuX/ /luon/ /luonH/
Shao
Rongfen 		/tʰɑuX/ /luən/ /luənH/
Edwin
Pulleyblank 		/tʰawX/ /lwən/ /lwənH/
Li
Rong 		/tʰɑuX/ /luən/ /luənH/
Wang
Li 		/tʰɑuX/ /luən/ /luənH/
Bernard
Karlgren 		/tʰɑuX/ /luən/ /luənH/
Expected
Mandarin
Reflex 		tǎo lún lùn
Expected
Cantonese
Reflex 		tou2 leon4 leon6
Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character 討 論 論
Reading # 1/1 2/3 3/3
Modern
Beijing
(Pinyin) 		tǎo lún lùn
Middle
Chinese 		‹ thawX › ‹ lwon › ‹ lwonH ›
Old
Chinese 		/*[t]ʰˁuʔ/ /*[r]ˁu[n]/ /*[r]ˁu[n]-s/
English examine; denounce discuss, examine discussion, discourse

Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system:

* Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence;
* Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p;
* Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix;
* Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary;

* Period "." indicates syllable boundary.
Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character 討 論 論
Reading # 1/1 1/3 2/3
No. 12374 8649 8656
Phonetic
component 		討 侖 侖
Rime
group 		幽 文 文
Rime
subdivision 		1 2 2
Corresponding
MC rime 		討 論 論
Old
Chinese 		/*tʰuːʔ/ /*ruːn/ /*ruːns/
Notes 疑肘聲

Verb edit

討論

  1. to discuss; to talk over
    你可以參與他們的討論。 [MSC, trad.]
    你可以参与他们的讨论。 [MSC, simp.]
    Nǐ kěyǐ cānyù tāmen de tǎolùn. [Pinyin]
    You can join in their discussion.
    他們詳細討論了這件事，結果達成諒解。 [MSC, trad.]
    他们详细讨论了这件事，结果达成谅解。 [MSC, simp.]
    Tāmen xiángxì tǎolùn le zhè jiàn shì, jiéguǒ dáchéng liàngjiě. [Pinyin]
    They discussed the matter in detail, and finally came to an understanding.
    這個討論還是由你來主持。 [MSC, trad.]
    这个讨论还是由你来主持。 [MSC, simp.]
    Zhège tǎolùn háishì yóu nǐ lái zhǔchí. [Pinyin]
    You had better host this discussion.
  2. (literary, of texts) to edit critically; to examine and rectify a text
  3. (literary) to study; to investigate; to research

Synonyms edit

  • (to discuss):

Derived terms edit

Related terms edit

Descendants edit

Sino-Xenic (討論):

Japanese edit

Kanji in this term
討 論
とう
Grade: 6 		ろん
Grade: 6
on’yomi

Pronunciation edit

Noun edit

討(とう)論(ろん) • (tōron) 

  1. debate
  2. discussion

Synonyms edit

Verb edit

討(とう)論(ろん)する • (tōron suru) suru (stem 討(とう)論(ろん)し (tōron shi), past 討(とう)論(ろん)した (tōron shita))

  1. to debate
  2. to discuss

Conjugation edit

Conjugation of "討論する" (See Appendix:Japanese verbs.)
Katsuyōkei ("stem forms")
Mizenkei ("imperfective") 討論し とうろんし tōron shi
Ren’yōkei ("continuative") 討論し とうろんし tōron shi
Shūshikei ("terminal") 討論する とうろんする tōron suru
Rentaikei ("attributive") 討論する とうろんする tōron suru
Kateikei ("hypothetical") 討論すれ とうろんすれ tōron sure
Meireikei ("imperative") 討論せよ¹
討論しろ² 		とうろんせよ¹
とうろんしろ² 		tōron seyo¹
tōron shiro²
Key constructions
Passive 討論される とうろんされる tōron sareru
Causative 討論させる
討論さす 		とうろんさせる
とうろんさす 		tōron saseru
tōron sasu
Potential 討論できる とうろんできる tōron dekiru
Volitional 討論しよう とうろんしよう tōron shiyō
Negative 討論しない とうろんしない tōron shinai
Negative continuative 討論せず とうろんせず tōron sezu
Formal 討論します とうろんします tōron shimasu
Perfective 討論した とうろんした tōron shita
Conjunctive 討論して とうろんして tōron shite
Hypothetical conditional 討論すれば とうろんすれば tōron sureba
¹ Written imperative

² Spoken imperative

Synonyms edit

References edit

  1. ^ NHK Broadcasting Culture Research Institute, editor (1998), NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 [NHK Japanese Pronunciation Accent Dictionary] (in Japanese), Tōkyō: NHK Publishing, →ISBN
  • 2002, Ineko Kondō; Fumi Takano; Mary E Althaus; et. al., Shogakukan Progressive Japanese-English Dictionary, Third Edition, Tokyo: Shōgakukan, →ISBN.

Korean edit

Hanja in this term
討論

Noun edit

討論 • (toron) (hangeul 토론)

  1. Hanja form? of 토론 (“debate, controversy”).

Vietnamese edit

chữ Hán Nôm in this term
討論

Verb edit

討論

  1. chữ Hán form of thảo luận (“to discuss”).
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